{"id":5678,"date":"2026-02-09T07:33:00","date_gmt":"2026-02-09T12:33:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/?p=5678"},"modified":"2026-02-08T19:47:03","modified_gmt":"2026-02-09T00:47:03","slug":"la-conversacion-sobre-los-calamares-superando-la-amenaza-de-las-conversaciones-financieras","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/es\/the-squid-conversation-getting-past-the-threat-of-financial-conversations\/","title":{"rendered":"La conversaci\u00f3n sobre el calamar: superar la amenaza de las conversaciones financieras\u00a0"},"content":{"rendered":"\t\t<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"5678\" class=\"elementor elementor-5678\" data-elementor-post-type=\"post\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-6b43acf elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"6b43acf\" data-element_type=\"section\" 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class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h1 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">The Squid Conversation: Getting Past the Threat of Financial Conversations <\/h1>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-873704f elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"873704f\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;ekit_has_onepagescroll_dot&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-34f83fc\" data-id=\"34f83fc\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-5985bf9 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"5985bf9\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;ekit_we_effect_on&quot;:&quot;none&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1024\" height=\"682\" src=\"https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2-1024x682.png\" class=\"attachment-large size-large wp-image-5677\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2-1024x682.png 1024w, https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2-300x200.png 300w, https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2-768x512.png 768w, https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2-1536x1024.png 1536w, https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2-18x12.png 18w, https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/2.png 2000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-a53abef elementor-invisible elementor-widget elementor-widget-heading\" data-id=\"a53abef\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-e-type=\"widget\" data-settings=\"{&quot;_animation&quot;:&quot;fadeInUp&quot;,&quot;ekit_we_effect_on&quot;:&quot;none&quot;}\" data-widget_type=\"heading.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<h3 class=\"elementor-heading-title elementor-size-default\">Talking About Money Feels Threatening Sometimes<\/h3>\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-3570dab elementor-widget__width-initial elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"3570dab\" 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@w-lg\/main:[--thread-content-margin:--spacing(16)] px-(--thread-content-margin)\"><div class=\"[--thread-content-max-width:40rem] @w-lg\/main:[--thread-content-max-width:48rem] mx-auto max-w-(--thread-content-max-width) flex-1 group\/turn-messages focus-visible:outline-hidden relative flex w-full min-w-0 flex-col agent-turn\" tabindex=\"-1\"><div class=\"flex max-w-full flex-col grow\"><div class=\"min-h-8 text-message relative flex w-full flex-col items-end gap-2 text-start break-words whitespace-normal [.text-message+&amp;]:mt-1\" dir=\"auto\" data-message-author-role=\"assistant\" data-message-id=\"2ac85721-a52a-425c-ac17-210edf3c5698\" data-message-model-slug=\"gpt-5-2\"><div class=\"flex w-full flex-col gap-1 empty:hidden first:pt-[1px]\"><div class=\"markdown prose dark:prose-invert w-full break-words light markdown-new-styling\"><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Do you know what a squid does when it feels threatened?<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">It releases ink to cloud the water around it so it can\u2019t be seen. The ink also has chemicals in it that can compromise the senses of whatever is threatening the squid.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The squid doesn\u2019t fight. It doesn\u2019t chase. It just confuses the predator so it can hide in its ink cloud or escape. Either way, the squid doesn\u2019t have to deal with whatever is threatening it.<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We\u2019re not so different from squids when we\u2019re feeling threatened by conversations about money. Money is a topic that\u2019s tied with so many emotions. Talking about money could bring up feelings of fear, control, or shame. And those can all lead to somebody feeling threatened.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I\u2019ve seen with many clients how they shut down, get defensive, or hide behind other topics when they start to feel threatened in a money conversation. When it takes this turn, I call it the \u201csquid conversation.\u201d<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Here\u2019s an example of what a squid conversation looks like:\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Partner 1: <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u201cCan we talk about our retirement accounts? I\u2019m getting concerned that we haven\u2019t done enough to plan for retirement.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Partner 2: <\/span><i><span data-contrast=\"auto\">\u201cWe are doing fine. You know I survived two tours in Iraq? I am lucky to be alive right now! We should just enjoy every day because tomorrow isn\u2019t promised.\u201d\u00a0<\/span><\/i><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Partner 2 was releasing ink. Partner 1 was confused, felt guilty, and didn\u2019t pursue the conversation any further. How do you argue with somebody who is lucky to be alive?\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Another reason I call this the squid conversation is because squid species have both tentacles and arms\u2014eight arms and two tentacles to be exact. To me, these tentacles and arms represent the different directions we are pulled and different priorities we have\u2014which all contribute to making financial conversations difficult.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.prnewswire.com\/news-releases\/62-of-americans-dont-talk-about-money-according-to-new-empower-research-and-their-silence-may-come-at-a-cost-301797007.html#:~:text=According%20to%20a%20study%20by%20Empower%2C%2062%25,they%20never%20talked%20about%20finances%20growing%20up\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">Empower research<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> found that 62 percent of people avoid or don\u2019t have conversations about money. And about 46 percent of people say they don\u2019t have conversations about money with their spouse or partner.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">We\u2019ve got to change that. An exercise I developed to help my clients can do just that. I developed it to help my clients address the issues that are most urgent to them with limited friction.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><h3><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Getting On the Same Page with the Squid Conversation<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I can spot a squid conversation from a mile away. But it might take you some practice. A squid conversation is present when there\u2019s an argument about money, when you\u2019re having a conversation about money and you keep revisiting the same topic but making no progress, or when one partner shuts down or changes the subject.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">And in those moments, you can use <a href=\"https:\/\/louisbarajas.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2026\/02\/4-The-Squid-Conversation\u2122.pdf\">the squid conversation tool<\/a>. This tool is to help you be aware of the issue and reset. It\u2019s an understanding tool. There are 6 steps to having a squid conversation: <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Step 1: Name the moment (not the problem). <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">When you are having a money conversation with your partner that shifts, identify the moment it shifted. Ask yourself: at what point did this conversation stop feeling safe? When did the tone of this conversation change? It doesn\u2019t matter who\u2019s right or wrong, it\u2019s about identifying when the squid ink was released.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Step 2: Identify the ink. <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Figure out what the squid ink is. In the opening example, it was Partner 2\u2019s bringing up surviving the war so that he didn\u2019t have to talk about retirement planning. Other examples include shutting down, getting defensive, making jokes, bringing up old issues, changing the subject, or saying that it isn\u2019t the right time to have this conversation.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">In this moment, it\u2019s important that you don\u2019t blame whoever released the ink. Don\u2019t correct them or explain to them what they did wrong, this is for awareness.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Step 3: Connect the defense to the feeling. <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Each of you should identify what emotion was prevalent in the moment before the defense. In the opening example, Partner 1 might say that she was feeling worried about retirement. And Partner 2 might say he was overwhelmed at the prospect of talking about retirement.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Step 4: Identify the threat. <\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Ask yourselves: what about this conversation made it feel threatening? Was it because one or both of you felt out of control? Trapped? Like you were being judged? Like you weren\u2019t enough? <\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Step 5: Normalize the squid response.<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Make sure to normalize that the squid response is a natural response. This exercise is to help you be aware when it happens and redirect the conversation.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Step 6: Rescript the response.<\/span><\/b><span data-contrast=\"auto\"> Choose one sentence you can use the next time you feel a squid response coming on. For example, you can use, \u201cI\u2019m starting to feel overwhelmed,\u201d or \u201cI\u2019m feeling defensive,\u201d or \u201cCan we pause and come back to this?\u201d\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><h3><b><span data-contrast=\"auto\">Proactive Action and Self Reflection<\/span><\/b><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/h3><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">I recently wrote about how important it is for couples to identify and rank order their values and have a vision for their lives. That\u2019s important because you always use your values and vision as motivation and as a guiding star to make decisions.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">The squid conversation is designed to help you be proactive for future instances when a squid reaction comes on. It\u2019s about taking the opportunity to find your own solutions through self-reflection.\u00a0<\/span><span data-ccp-props=\"{&quot;134233117&quot;:false,&quot;134233118&quot;:false,&quot;201341983&quot;:0,&quot;335551550&quot;:1,&quot;335551620&quot;:1,&quot;335559685&quot;:0,&quot;335559737&quot;:0,&quot;335559738&quot;:0,&quot;335559739&quot;:160,&quot;335559740&quot;:279}\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span data-contrast=\"auto\">But if you need help or guidance doing this exercise, please get in touch with me at <\/span><a href=\"mailto:info@louisbarajas.com\"><span data-contrast=\"none\">info@louisbarajas.com<\/span><\/a><span data-contrast=\"auto\">. I\u2019d love to help you or connect you with one of my trained Corazon Financial Advocates, who can help you through this exercise.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/article><\/div>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-50 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-7ed469e\" data-id=\"7ed469e\" data-element_type=\"column\" data-e-type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-inner-section elementor-element elementor-element-dc524cd elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"dc524cd\" data-element_type=\"section\" data-e-type=\"section\" data-settings=\"{&quot;background_background&quot;:&quot;classic&quot;,&quot;ekit_has_onepagescroll_dot&quot;:&quot;yes&quot;}\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div 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